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Miller, Harry

Different Times, Different Places Volume Two

Miller, Harry: Different Times, Different Places Volume Two (Ogun)

Compiling un-released material from late British bassist Harry Miller's recordings from 1977, 78 & 82, in bands with drummer Louis Moholo, guitarist Bernie Holland, pianist Keith Tippett, saxophonists Trevor Watts & Alan Wakeman, trombonist Alan Tomlinson, and trumpeter Dave Holdsworth; effusive joyful lyrical jazz infused with African rhythms.
 

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UPC: 5020675572423

Label: Ogun
Catalog ID: OGCD 045
Squidco Product Code: 22133

Format: CD
Condition: New
Released: 2016
Country: Great Britain
Packaging: Cardboard Gatefold 3 Panels
Track 1 recorded December 1977

Tracks 2 to 4 recorded August 1978

Tracks 5 to 7 recorded September 1982


Personnel:

Harry Miller-bass

Louis Moholo-Moholo-drums

Bernie Holland-guitar

Trevor Watts-saxophone

Alan Wakeman-saxophone

Keith Tippett-piano

Alan Tomlinson-trombone

Dave Holdsworth-trumpet

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track listing:


1. Orange Grove 9:17

2. Miss Liz 8:52

3. The Magician 8:36

4. Door Key 10:30

5. Down South 8:53

6. Ikaya 11:46

7. Mofolo 4:51
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"Compiled from the Miller family's tape archive by the late Michael King, "Different Times, Different Places Volume Two" brings together previously unreleased material dating from 1977, 1978 and 1982."-Ogun



"Harry Miller was a Cape Town bassist prominent in London in the 1960s and 70s, who died in a car crash in Holland in 1983 - at a point when his fierce pizzicato attack, composing skills and vivid fusion of free-jazz, swing and African rhythms were making him just as powerful a figure on the Dutch scene. This previously unreleased material comes from 1970s Miller-led gigs in Britain and France, featuring two superb free-jazz pianists (the late Chris McGregor on the first; Britain's Keith Tippett on the second), legendary alto saxophonist Mike Osborne, and drummer Louis Moholo-Moholo. Gripping episodes abound, such as the sound of Osborne's vinegary, Ornette-meets-Ayler sax soaring over Miller's whipping bass figures on the gruffly tender Bloomfield, McGregor's fills on the riffy Quandry (made fortuitously more pungent by the off-pitch piano), and two versions of the springy, Mingus-like Touch Hungry - the first with a percussively Monkish McGregor, the second with some fine, Miles-like trumpet from Marc Charig. Those who remember Miller's heyday will love this rough-hewn document, as will fans of the South Africa-celebrating Townships Comets and Moholo-Moholo's current work."-John Fordham, The Guardian UK

See also Different Times, Different Places Volume One

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Artist Biographies:

"Harold Simon "Harry" Miller (25 April 1941 - 16 December 1983) was a South African jazz bass player, who settled in Europe, becoming one of the UK jazz scene's "most vibrant and dynamic talents".

Miller was born in Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa. He began his career as a bassist with Manfred Mann, and went to settle in London, England. He was a central figure in the mixture of South-African township music and free-jazz that dynamised the scene in London at the end of the 1960s and into the '70s. Miller recorded frequently with musicians such as Mike Westbrook, Chris McGregor, John Surman, Mike Cooper, Louis Moholo, Keith Tippett and Elton Dean.

At the end of the 1970s he moved to the Netherlands for economic reasons, where he worked with musicians of Willem Breuker's circle. Miller also appeared on the album Islands by the progressive rock band King Crimson, in 1971 as session musician.

Miller died in a car crash in the Netherlands in 1983.

The record label Ogun Records, which he founded with his wife Hazel Miller, was vital for documenting that period, and is still active today."

-Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Miller_(jazz_bassist))
8/16/2017

"Louis Tebogo Moholo (born 10 March 1940), is a South African jazz drummer.

Born in Cape Town, Moholo formed The Blue Notes with Chris McGregor, Johnny Dyani, Nikele Moyake, Mongezi Feza and Dudu Pukwana, and emigrated to Europe with them in 1964, eventually settling in London, where he formed part of a South African exile community that made an important contribution to British jazz. He was a member of the Brotherhood of Breath, a big band comprising several South African exiles and leading musicians of the British free jazz scene in the 1970s and is the founder of Viva la Black and The Dedication Orchestra. His first album under his own name, Spirits Rejoice on Ogun Records, is considered a classic example of the combination of British and South African players. In the early 1970s, Moholo was also a member of the afro-rock band Assagai.

He has played with many musicians, including Derek Bailey, Steve Lacy, Evan Parker, Enrico Rava, Roswell Rudd, Irène Schweizer, Cecil Taylor, John Tchicai, Archie Shepp, Peter Brötzmann, Mike Osborne, Keith Tippett, Elton Dean and Harry Miller.

Moholo returned to South Africa in September 2005, performing with George Lewis at the UNYAZI Festival of Electronic Music in Johannesburg. He now goes under the name Louis Moholo-Moholo because the name is more ethnically authentic. South African promoter Slow Life in March 2017 at the Olympia Bakery in Kalk Bay, Cape Town produced a show where Louis performed along with Mark Fransman, Reza Khota, Keenan Ahrends and Brydon Bolton."

-Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Moholo)
8/16/2017

"Guitarist Bernie Holland has played with Billy Connolly, Gerry Rafferty, Meic Stevens, Stomu Yamashta, Joan Armatrading, Max Middleton, Bob Tench, Clive Chaman, Conrad Isidore, Godfrey McLean, Linda Lewis, Marc Bolan, Danny Thompson, Vic Abraham, Neil Innes, Mike Patto, Ollie Halsall, Clive Griffiths, John Halsey, Tim Hinkley, Pete Gavin, Fred Gandy, Elton Dean, Marc Charig, Long John Baldry, Alan Clare, Kenny Baldock, Tony Crombie, Ronnie Scott, Alan Clare, Dave Green, Alan Ganley, Jim Richardson, Jeff Green, Ronnie Verrell, Sophie Garner, Jack Bruce, Ronnie Leahy, Jim Mullen, Isaac Guillory, Pete Berryman, Ron Aspery, Dave McCrae, Tony Hicks, Colin Hodgkinson, Stefan Grossman, Mick Eave, Glen Le Fleur, Tony O'Malley, Frank Collins, Steve Winwood, Georgie Fame, Graham Bond, John Stevens, Annie Whitehead, Van Morrison, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Freddie Hubbard, Mose Allison, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Mitch Mitchell, Poli Palmer, Pete Townshend, Pat Metheny, Jack de Johnette, Paul Dunmall, Tony Roberts, Slim Gaillard, John Lee Hooker, Ian Carr, Harry Miller, Louis Moholo, Rosetta Hightower, Martha Reeves, Toots Thielemans, Leo Sayer, Boz Burrell, Ian Wallace, Brian Odgers, Clive Thacker, Gary Boyle, Henry McCullough, Sam Gopal, Zoot Money, Maggie Bell, John Etheridge, Ronnie Johnson, Geoff Dunn, Brian Bennett, Annette Peacock, Barry Pheloung, Julian Bream, Ray Warleigh, Stanley Sultzman, Alan Skidmore, Neil Drinkwater, Richie Buckley,

Bernie Holland composed the acclaimed piece "Diamond Dust" which was first recorded by Jeff Beck on his 'Blow by Blow' album, however, there is also a version by Joe Henderson."

-All About Jazz (https://musicians.allaboutjazz.com/bernieholland)
8/16/2017

"Trevor Charles Watts (born 26 February 1939 in York) is an English jazz and free-improvising alto and soprano saxophonist. He is largely self-taught, having taken up the cornet at age 12 then switched to saxophone at 18. While stationed in Germany with the RAF (1958-63), he encountered the drummer John Stevens and trombonist Paul Rutherford. After being demobbed he returned to London. In 1965 he and Stevens formed the Spontaneous Music Ensemble, which became one of the crucibles of British free improvisation. Watts left the band to form his own group Amalgam in 1967, then returned to SME for another stretch that lasted until the mid-1970s. Another key association was with the bassist Barry Guy and his London Jazz Composers' Orchestra, an association that lasted from the band's inception in the 1970s up to its (permanent?) disbandment in the mid-1990s.

Though he was initially strongly identified with the avant-garde, Watts is a versatile musician who has worked in everything from straight jazz contexts to rock and blues. His own projects have come increasingly to focus on blending jazz and African music, notably the Moiré Music ensemble which he has led since 1982 in configurations ranging from large ensembles featuring multiple drummers to more intimate trios. He has only occasionally recorded in freer modes in recent years, notably the CD 6 Dialogues, a duet album with Veryan Weston (the pianist in earlier editions of Moiré Music). A solo album, World Sonic, appeared on Hi4Head Records in 2005.

Watts has toured the world over numerous times, run workshops, received grants and commissions, and he has collaborated with some of the great jazz musicians including Archie Shepp, Steve Lacy, Don Cherry and Jayne Cortez. As of 2011, he continues to travel and toured North American with Veryan Weston."

-Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Watts)
8/16/2017

"Alan Wakeman was born in West London in 1947. He became interested in jazz during the British Trad Jazz boom of the early 1960s leading to him picking up the clarinet at age 14 (his cousin Rick Wakeman giving him his first lesson in his back garden). After playing for three months, Wakeman, together with Rick on piano - the 'only one who knew what he was doing,' put together Drayton Manor Grammar School's first jazz band.

After taking up the alto sax at 16, he got to know Mike Westbrook when the up and coming bandleader came to his school to teach art for a year. By then he had decided to become a professional musician and was having lessons with Charles Chapman (Joe Harriott, Ronnie Ross, Vic Ash, John Barnes, Barbara Thompson, John Williams and Pete Whyman being among the many pupils coming out of the 'Chapman Stable'). He left school at 18 to study clarinet at the London College of Music.

In 1966, Wakeman took up tenor sax, which became his main instrument along with the soprano.

At the age of 20, while playing in a working men's club every weekend with cousin Rick, he became involved with the London jazz scene through his acquaintance with free jazz drummer Paul Lytton. They met when both were in the London Youth Jazz Orchestra (which Wakeman joined after he was heard by Pat Evans). He joined Lytton's quartet for six months, playing every Wednesday night at a club in Tottenham Court Road. Later he and the drummer formed various bands together, from duo to large line-ups. In 1970 they won the G.L.A.A Young Musicians Jazz Award.

His first broadcast for the BBC was in 1968 with The Dave Holdsworth Quartet - Paul Lytton on drums and Harry Miller on bass, and his own octet playing his own compositions in 1969 - Mike Osborne (alto sax) , Alan Skidmore and Wakeman (tenor saxes), Paul Nieman and Paul Rutherford (trombones), John Taylor (piano), Lindsay Cooper (bass) and Paul Lytton (drums).

After leading his own trio in 1970 (with Harry Miller on bass and Lytton on drums), he joined Graham Collier Music, replacing Stan Sulzmann. This lasted for two years and two albums, "Songs For My Father" and "Mosaics", featuring such contemporaries as Harry Beckett, Phil Lee and Geoff Castle. Prior to rejoining Mike Westbrook's band in late 1974, he toured with John Dankworth. Wakeman's debut with Westbrook was on 1975's "Citadel/Room 615", and their collaboration continued with "Love Dream & Variations" (1975), "Bright As Fire" (1980), "The Paris Album" (1981) etc.

In 1975, Wakeman played briefly with pianist Brian Miller's group Impulse. It was then that he came to the attention of John Marshall, Soft Machine's drummer, who attended a gig by this band at the Chestnut's Club. Wakeman was considered as a possible replacement for the departing Allan Holdsworth, but it would be another year before he actually joined Soft Machine, stepping in for Mike Ratledge. He was also an original member of another 'Canterbury Music' group about this time, Alan Gowen's Gilgamesh, but left long before any recordings were made.

Meanwhile, he formed another trio with Nigel Tickler on bass and John Snow on drums.

Wakeman was in Soft Machine from February to July 1976. This line-up was documented on the "Softs" album, recorded during the spring of that year. He left when he was offered a retainer as a member of David Essex's band.

In 1978 together with drummer Nigel Morris and bassist Paul Bridge he founded the trio, Triton. He also wrote a suite for octet which was premiered at the 1979 Camden Jazz Festival.

Other collaborations in the 70's and 80's included Barry Guy's London Jazz Composers Orchestra, The Don Rendell Five, Michael Garrick Sextet, Harry Beckett Band, Stan Tracy Sextet, Henry Lowther's Quarternity and John Williams Baritone Band.

Since then, Wakeman has kept working occasionally with Westbrook, while keeping busy with commercial work."

-Jazz CDS (http://www.jazzcds.co.uk/artist_id_1383/biography_id_1383)
8/16/2017

"Keith Tippett (born Keith Graham Tippetts; 25 August 1947) is a British jazz pianist and composer.

Tippett was born in Southmead, Bristol. The son of an English father who was a policeman and an Irish mother name of Kitty. Keith wrote music dedicated to her after she died. Keith was the oldest of three siblings and had Clive and Thomas as brothers. Tippett went to Greenway Secondary Modern school in Southmead, Bristol. He formed his first band when he was fourteen with school friends, such as Richard Murch, Mike Milton, Terry Pratt and Bob Chard. They were called the KT Trad Lads performing Traditional jazz. Later Keith formed a modern jazz trio in Bristol and played regularly at the Dugout Club in Park Row, Bristol. He studied Piano and Church Organ, was a chorister and played with the school and Bristol youth brass bands. He moved to London in 1967, to pursue a musical life.

In the late 1960s, Tippett led a sextet featuring Elton Dean on saxophone, Mark Charig on trumpet and Nick Evans on trombone. Tippett married singer Julie Driscoll and wrote scores for TV.

In the early 1970s, his big band Centipede brought together much of a generation of young British jazz and rock musicians. As well as performing some concerts (limited economically by the size of the band), they recorded one double-album, Septober Energy.

He formed, with Harry Miller and Louis Moholo a formidable rhythm section at the centre of some the most exciting combinations in the country, including the Elton Dean quartet, and Elton Dean's Ninesense. Around the same time, he was also in the vicinity of King Crimson, contributing piano to several of their records including "Cat Food" (and even appearing with them on Top of the Pops). His own groups, such as Ovary Lodge tended towards a more contemplative form of European free improvisation. He continues to perform with the improvising ensemble Mujician and more recently (2006) Work in Progress.

Tippett has appeared and recorded in a wide variety of settings, including a duet with Stan Tracey, duets with his wife Julie Tippetts, solo performances, and appeared on three King Crimson albums."

-Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Tippett)
8/16/2017

"Alan Tomlinson was born in Manchester and studied trombone at the City of Leeds College of Music. He has been actively improvising since the early 1970s and was a member of I.L.E.A's Cockpit Theatre Music Ensemble, Tony Oxley's Angular Apron, Barry Guy's London Jazz Composers Orchestra and the Ballet Rambert Orchestra.

He works with musicians including Jon Corbett, David Toop, Phil Minton and Paul Hession and has toured all over Europe and as far afield as North America and Siberia. He recorded the solo album 'Still Outside' in 1980 and more recently 'Trap Street', with Steve Beresford (electronics) and Roger Turner (percussion) which was released in May 2003 on Emanem."

-Last.FM (https://www.last.fm/music/Alan+Tomlinson/+wiki)
8/16/2017

"Over the last 40 years Dave Holdsworth has been a member an a featured soloist with many of the most important jazz units in the UK, including the Bands/orchestras of Mike Westbrook, Barry Guy,Tony Oxley, Mike Osborne, Chris McGregor, Charlotte Glasson, and Tim Richards. He has appeared on recordings with them and also Herbie Flowers, Willy Russell, Spirit Level as well as his own Quartet.

He leads, composes and arranges for bands of his own, including most recently,

RHYTHM-A-NING with the music of Thelonious Monk

STRAIGHT JACK playing the music of Mike Osborne

DAVE HOLDSWORTH QUARTET mostly original material

LICKETY SPLIT big brass band jazz

SATHIMA the music of Abdullah Ibrahim"

-The Jazz Suite (http://www.jazzsuite.co.uk/artists/dave-holdsworth.php)
8/16/2017

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